Can you use a glaze over a sealent or paste wax?

[wallyStang]

If I apply a glaze will it still help to hide swirls over a sealant?

[9D4E420]

It will still be able to hide swirls. Problem is it will come off after a wash expect almost zero durability. Your best bet is to start over and apply it after polishing but before your LSP.

[wallyStang]

My car was clayed, polished, and sealed by a detailer but it still has swirls. I added a coat of nattys regular on top of the sealent and it looked a tad better, but the swirls are still very noticable during sunny days. Is there anything I can put on top of the sealant and paste wax to help hide a little more swirls until the paint is corrected in march/april?????

[Beemerboy]

If you PB glaze then yes you can top that on the sealant and it will help to mask the swirls, once you have that done top that off with nattys again

Its not the best order to apply these products but in your case there is not a lot of choices

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[Poorboy]

Originally Posted by Beemerboy

If you PB glaze then yes you can top that on the sealant and it will help to mask the swirls, once you have that done top that off with nattys again

Its not the best order to apply these products but in your case there is not a lot of choices

yes, i'd say that was good advice

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[Ronkh]

Originally Posted by Beemerboy

If you PB glaze then yes you can top that on the sealant and it will help to mask the swirls, once you have that done top that off with nattys again

Its not the best order to apply these products but in your case there is not a lot of choices

Actually works well.

Don;t ask me how I know.

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[wallyStang]

I just cant stand seeing swirls in my paint I dont wanna do a full detail because it is dam cold lol

[Beemerboy]

Originally Posted by wallyStang

I just cant stand seeing swirls in my paint I dont wanna do a full detail because it is dam cold lol

The glaze is a great way to mask those until spring comes. I do this in the winter just to save time and not polish the car all the time

[wallyStang]

lol winter???? what winter in cali???? hehe

[cwcad]

It has been my experience with Black Hole that it covers very well. With that said I never said that it covers everything.

IF swirls are on the paint there is only one way to get rid of them. Prep the paint with a good polish then apply Black Hole.

[Tex Star Detail]

Man, I have to try this Black Hole everyone is talking about....

[ArmstrongDetailing]

Originally Posted by cwcad

It has been my experience with Black Hole that it covers very well. With that said I never said that it covers everything.

IF swirls are on the paint there is only one way to get rid of them. Prep the paint with a good polish then apply Black Hole.

I'm trying to follow you here. It sounds a bit comical. Forgive me if it wasn't meant to be.

"With that said I never said..."

I guess I am not understanding the role of Black Hole as you guys are describing it.

I see Black Hole as a one-step product to clean the paint and fill some scratches while providing a nice wet looking shine. All being very temporary do to it's nature of being a glaze. What am I missing?

Steve can you clarify please. Does Black Hole contain acrylic? Shouldn't that make it more of a sealant than a glaze? Can it miraculously fill scratches when applied over top of a sealant?

Now I will attempt to answer this question according to what I know about glazes (and my experiences with them). Saying that a glaze is going to fill scratches when you apply it over a sealant sounds wrong to me. Logically, how is it going to fill the scratch if the sealant is between the scratch and the glaze?

I get frustrated when I deal with the clear film placed over the noses of many cars these days because I can't polish the paint underneath the film. The only way to polish the paint is to remove the film. IMO the only way you're going to fill (or polish) any scratches is if you remove any wax or sealant first. Now Black Hole might be strong enough to do just that, but don't go thinking the wax or sealant is still there.

[Poorboy]

no acrylic in Black Hole ... it fills from working it into the finish ... yes it will fill over or under as it is leveling the surface not by abrasion but with fillers, thus the need to put a LSP over it to seal it in.

hope that helped

[cwcad]

I have never thought of Black Hole as an AIO. I thought it was a covering glaze with some protection but not in the realm of a sealant.

[ArmstrongDetailing]

Originally Posted by Poorboy

no acrylic in Black Hole ... it fills from working it into the finish ... yes it will fill over or under as it is leveling the surface not by abrasion but with fillers, thus the need to put a LSP over it to seal it in.

hope that helped

I wish I could agree with this but I don't. The sealant or wax levels the surface without concealing the scratch in most cases. This seals the scratch in, much like the clear film scenario I used before. The only way you're going to fill it is by removing the sealant or wax first. We are talking about micro scratches here not ones you feel with your fingernail right?