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Going from orbital to rotary...suggestions? -
02-23-2009, 09:56 AM
I've used my trusty PC orbital for the last 2 seasons, with satisfactory results. Not perfect, mind you...but good...
This summer, I want to step it up to a rotary. I already have the Lake Country 6.5" plate and 3 pads (Starter kit) and SSR 1, 2, 2.5.
Can you recommend me a good rotary?
Also, how much more careful do I need to be considering the last 2 years of complete polishing with the orbital? Do I still have significant clearcoat left? (stock paint)
I'm well aware of the risk of 'burning' thru the paint, so I'm a little nervous about my first time with the rotary...
Lake Country Pads
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Re: Going from orbital to rotary...suggestions? -
02-23-2009, 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by WuNgUn
I've used my trusty PC orbital for the last 2 seasons, with satisfactory results. Not perfect, mind you...but good...
This summer, I want to step it up to a rotary. I already have the Lake Country 6.5" plate and 3 pads (Starter kit) and SSR 1, 2, 2.5.
Can you recommend me a good rotary?
Also, how much more careful do I need to be considering the last 2 years of complete polishing with the orbital? Do I still have significant clearcoat left? (stock paint)
I'm well aware of the risk of 'burning' thru the paint, so I'm a little nervous about my first time with the rotary...
it's not a hard jump, just be careful, pay attention, practice at speeds no higher than 3 and you'll be fine.
there are so many good rotarys to buy...
Metabo .. great machine but expensive Flex ... very nice machine but expensive
Porter Cable.. nice machine and often overlooked
DeWault... industry standard
Hitachi...nice light machine with great warranty
Makita.. light machine ... decent history by most
Milwaukee...bit heavy but a real workhorse
good luck
Flex Polishers
FLEX makes both dual action and circular (rotary) polishers. Their polishers are built to professional standards with features like rugged housing, variable speed triggers, controlled acceleration, overload protection, temperature monitoring, and auto shut-off carbon brushes. Whether you choose a dual action or a circular polisher, you will enjoy years of hassle-free use with your FLEX polisher.
Lake Country Pads
Lake Country buffing pads is at the top of their game! If you know anything about foam polishing pads, you’re no doubt familiar with this company. They’ve been designing and manufacturing polisher accessories since 1977 and we’d be willing to bet they know a thing or two about car care. In fact, we’re so confident in their expertise, Max enlisted their help to design pads for Palm Beach Motoring Accessories.
Re: Going from orbital to rotary...suggestions? -
02-23-2009, 10:40 AM
Thanks PB...great list of machines there!
So, typically, these are sold as angle grinders, or polishers?
Also, 'Speed 3' is a bit of a mystery isn't it, depending on the machine? I've seen a Mastercraft 12A rotary that spins up to 11,000rpm!
Should I be targeting a rotary that works from around 600 to 5000rpm or so?
TIA
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Re: Going from orbital to rotary...suggestions? -
02-23-2009, 10:50 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by WuNgUn
Thanks PB...great list of machines there!
So, typically, these are sold as angle grinders, or polishers?
Also, 'Speed 3' is a bit of a mystery isn't it, depending on the machine? I've seen a Mastercraft 12A rotary that spins up to 11,000rpm!
Should I be targeting a rotary that works from around 600 to 5000rpm or so?
TIA
on most of the rotaries you will get them to go from 600-3000 ... go no higher than 1500 most beginners should stay around 900-1200 until they are really use to it
Poorboys World Products
Poorboy’s has made a name around the show circuit for fantastic products at great prices! Its ever-growing popularity is due to word-of-mouth testimonies from novice detailers through auto enthusiasts about the brilliant results no matter what your level of expertise. You’re going to love Poorboy’s!
Re: Going from orbital to rotary...suggestions? -
02-23-2009, 10:52 AM
Not the complete rotary expert here, but my Makita is from 600-3000 RPM. I think speed 3 is either 1200 or 1500 from what I understand does a lot of correction work. I guess depending on the correction needed you might have to go to a higher RPM.
If you look on DC or AG - they sell some rotaries (do not know what they are considered ie "polishers or grinders")
Re: Going from orbital to rotary...suggestions? -
02-23-2009, 10:59 AM
What about when it comes to the final polish (SSR1 in this case)...is 1500 rpm sufficient? Would my Porter DA be better suited for the last polish step?
Re: Going from orbital to rotary...suggestions? -
02-23-2009, 11:00 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Redwings97
Not the complete rotary expert here, but my Makita is from 600-3000 RPM. I think speed 3 is either 1200 or 1500 from what I understand does a lot of correction work. I guess depending on the correction needed you might have to go to a higher RPM.
If you look on DC or AG - they sell some rotaries (do not know what they are considered ie "polishers or grinders")
yes that's what it runs at ...ps Trent he's in Canada
Re: Going from orbital to rotary...suggestions? -
02-23-2009, 11:01 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by WuNgUn
What about when it comes to the final polish (SSR1 in this case)...is 1500 rpm sufficient? Would my Porter DA be better suited for the last polish step?
you could go with either machine with the same pad ..I prefer to finish off with the pc .. .. rotary for correction, orbital for looks
Re: Going from orbital to rotary...suggestions? -
02-23-2009, 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by WuNgUn
Thanks again...
What'cha think of this? Canadian Tire
It's local and affordable...
Yes, that will work fine .. if it's local and no shipping involved then you have it made. I think Chris at E-shine might have a machine or two also ... might be worth looking at
Re: Going from orbital to rotary...suggestions? -
02-23-2009, 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Poorboy
Yes, that will work fine .. if it's local and no shipping involved then you have it made. I think Chris at E-shine might have a machine or two also ... might be worth looking at
Right...I've bought from him in the past...great guy! I'll have a look...
Thanks again guys...