Now it is the prius

[black bart]

Originally Posted by JaredPointer

Did Bankrupt Runaway Prius Driver Fake "Unintended Acceleration?" - Toyota Recall - Jalopnik

I read this on BITOG and the fan boys are all over it saying he is out to get money.
Problem with that is he did not crash and he was not injured so he will be hard pressed to find a lawyer that will take his case on contingency.

I think a better explanation is that the guy is a very poor driver and when the throttle stuck he panicked.

Hard for me to imagine a prius accelerating enough to panic anyone but their are some really poor drivers out their.

I saw this morning on the local news that a Toyota suddenly accelerated and the woman hit a pole this was near where I live don't know if it will make the national news but I feel sorry for her and her family because they will try to divert the problem by trying to dig up something on her.

[JaredPointer]

I just found it interesting.

On top of the media fear mongering, I do believe that there's a lot of opportunists out there who will jump on this be it for notoriety, their 15 minutes of fame, to get out of a payment they don't like, etc.

While I don't dismiss that there's a problem, it's kind of funny to me to see these 5+ year old cars coming out of the woodwork that are now all of a sudden having problems now that's it splashed all over the media. Why were they not having problems before now? It's just awful convenient how easy it would be to be a top story on the news right now with a Toyota vehicle.

This isn't the only article I've come across lately that hints that this may be a overblown issue. Just this morning I saw two articles about the ABC guy who rigged up a Toyota to fail. ABC pretty much said they shouldn't have aired it now, without really coming out and saying it in so many words. Also, the guy manipulated the system far beyond what would ever happen in normal, everyday use.

There's also some questions floating about by the lady who testified before congress. From what I could tell, there's not a lot of physical evidence to suggest that she tried to do many of the things to stop the vehicle that she says she did. That may or may not be much more than hearsay - I assume it depends on the group you choose to listen to.

Not really trying to be a conspiracy theorist here or anything, but I think there's a lot more than meets the eye regarding the Toyota situation, not to mention how convenient it would be for some other parties to benefit from all of it, either individuals or companies (and the associated unions).

[JaredPointer]

ABC admits tinkering with Toyota report -  News - MSN CA

Shady journalism?


http://pressroom.toyota.com/pr/tms/e...ol-154300.aspx

Regarding manipulating the electronics (and how the same "stuck throttle" condition was caused in other manufacturers cars by doing the same thing)

[Bunky]

Originally Posted by JaredPointer

Shady journalism?

Never happens.

[Scott P]

That is interesting. I was curious to see if anyone would try to exploit the problem for potential financial gain.

[Blackfire]

Originally Posted by Scott P

That is interesting. I was curious to see if anyone would try to exploit the problem for potential financial gain.

Curious? We live in a society that feeds on the mistakes of others.

Let's see what this guy gets once they question him more.

[black bart]

The very same day as the incident in California a woman in New York was pulling out of a drive and blasted into a stone wall putting her in the hospital.

I'll bet she is just trying to get money

As for Sikes the guy from California looking for money he may be but it took several years and a class action law suit before Toyota owners ever saw a dime over their sludge monster engines.
I bet this guy don't have any better luck than they did.

This recall has cost Billions late last summer Toyota cut the pay of their employees 20 percent claiming if 2010 was not better than 09 they would be bankrupt.
Well it has not gotten better so are they going broke or were they lying to the employees

[JaredPointer]

Originally Posted by black bart

.... late last summer Toyota cut the pay of their employees 20 percent claiming if 2010 was not better than 09 they would be bankrupt.
Well it has not gotten better so are they going broke or were they lying to the employees....

Maybe I missed it, but where exactly did this info come from? Is there a press release or a link? I'd be interested to read that. I seem to recall Toyota, when deciding to close the NUMMI plant giving a payout of some sort to the remaining employees. (This, after GM had already pulled out and left everyone high and dry.)

And if I recall, I believe there is a story out there regarding the NY Prius incident speculating that it was due to driver error (i.e hitting the accelerator when she thought she was braking or something). Not 100% sure on that, though. Might be worth a Google search if anyone is interested.

[black bart]

Originally Posted by JaredPointer

Maybe I missed it, but where exactly did this info come from? Is there a press release or a link? I'd be interested to read that. I seem to recall Toyota, when deciding to close the NUMMI plant giving a payout of some sort to the remaining employees. (This, after GM had already pulled out and left everyone high and dry.)

And if I recall, I believe there is a story out there regarding the NY Prius incident speculating that it was due to driver error (i.e hitting the accelerator when she thought she was braking or something). Not 100% sure on that, though. Might be worth a Google search if anyone is interested.

I got my information from my grandson he works at Toyota
He is not a temp he is full time.

Toyota uses a lot of what they call temporary workers don't matter if you have been their for several years you are a temp and can be laid off at a moments notice anytime.

Last word I saw on the New York deal was this morning news Toyota wanted the car and the NY police refused to give it to them until after the NHTSA had a chance to look at it.

Rather than take Toyota's word for what is on the EDR they want to look for themselves.

All the speculation could stop if Toyota would just make the data available like other manufactures do.

What are they trying to hide if I wreck my car here in Indiana the police can download from the EDR and tell if I was speeding on the throttle or brakes but not with a Toyota that info can only be retrieved by Toyota.

For those who don't know EDR is event data recorder

If they are correct and this is all the drivers fault they could prove it over night just release the EDR data.

[Blackfire]

I smell lies and a snake

[JaredPointer]

That stinks about the pay cut for your grandson, Bart. We had a similar situation where I work (defense contractor). It was take pay cuts or lots of layoffs (for the hourly union employees).

I agree with the data recorder idea - why not just let an independent party review the data alongside the Toyota people?