Any attorneys out there? Intellectual property attys?

[Garry Dean]

I have a question to whomever may know the answer.

I have an invention that I have been to see a couple of attorneys about. I was looking into applying for a patent.

I have done lots of searching online to find out if someone else has already patented my idea.

I keep finding similar designs, but nothing that is exactly the same.

It seems I am finding several designs that are different variations of almost the same thing.

So my question is, How much different does something need to be from an already patented item for it to be different enough to be its own patentable item?

[Bunky]

Originally Posted by Premium

I have a question to whomever may know the answer.

I have an invention that I have been to see a couple of attorneys about. I was looking into applying for a patent.

I have done lots of searching online to find out if someone else has already patented my idea.

I keep finding similar designs, but nothing that is exactly the same.

It seems I am finding several designs that are different variations of almost the same thing.

So my question is, How much different does something need to be from an already patented item for it to be different enough to be its own patentable item?

I have received patents but they were filed through the company IP department. But, you can take anyone's patent, make an improvement, and file another patent for the improvement.

How different does it have to be? It really depends on how good your prep is for filing. It is all about wording and knowing what they want to see in order to accept so it is best to get an IP attorney (pay him) to review.

I have seen a lot of common sense stuff approved that I wonder why they approved. The problem is you can get a patent but if there is a lot of prior art and there are easy alternatives then you will not make any money off the patent.

The problem with patents is people implement other people's patent without even knowing it so you have to have a patent chasing attorney to find them, ask them to pay up, and be prepared to defend them in court. That takes money since even if you win your damages are usually mostly the revenue from the sale so if a guy uses your idea, sell 10 @ $1000, the most you will like see is $10k.

[njcarting1]

Originally Posted by Premium

I have a question to whomever may know the answer.

I have an invention that I have been to see a couple of attorneys about. I was looking into applying for a patent.

I have done lots of searching online to find out if someone else has already patented my idea.

I keep finding similar designs, but nothing that is exactly the same.

It seems I am finding several designs that are different variations of almost the same thing.

So my question is, How much different does something need to be from an already patented item for it to be different enough to be its own patentable item?

Be careful of attorneys, they will tell you they can do whatever you want. Then after getting a huge bill the "TRUTH" will be, sorry things have changed. They all need cash like everyone else. This happened to a buddy with a patent question. Next thing was they said we can get the patent done for you overseas. $$$$$$$$$$ Yes they sent him a bill for that reply also. GO FIGURE.

[JohnHenry]

Garry! Just because someone patented clay, doesn't mean you can patent that cutting edge idea of yours... you know... washing a car with a sponge and a bucket of soapy water. LOL!

Yes I'm bitter! I want some Riccardo, dammit!

Seriously, the only thing I know about patents... stay away from InventHelp dot com.

Best of luck, buddy. I'll buy one of whatever it is, sight unseen.

[Bunky]

Originally Posted by JohnHenry

Garry! Just because someone patented clay, doesn't mean you can patent that cutting edge idea of yours... you know... washing a car with a sponge and a bucket of soapy water. LOL!

Yes I'm bitter! I want some Riccardo, dammit!

Seriously, the only thing I know about patents... stay away from InventHelp dot com.

Best of luck, buddy. I'll buy one of whatever it is, sight unseen.

I saw a patent where a guy patented a stick...as a dog toy if I recall

[Garry Dean]

I cannot wait to reveal my idea to you all! I spoke with my attorney yesterday briefly, but I have a meeting with him on Monday to discuss a few more things.

As it turns out my idea is more unique than I thought.

I will keep you all posted.

Jay, I will take you up on that purchase when I get up and running.

[Mike Phillips]

Best of luck with your idea...

I like this idea, it came to me when watching an old re-run if I Dream of Jeanie....

Genie Wax in a Bottle
After washing and drying your car, you set the bottle on the ground and remove the lid. A smoke comes out of the bottle and encases the car and works it's magic. When done, the smoke goes back into the bottle and your car now has a deep wet shine!


I think the idea would sell if I just had the product...

[Garry Dean]

That sounds like a good idea to me!

[black bart]

Hey Mike you bring it to market and I will buy it as long as you keep the price to 10 bucks or less.