Firearms carry

[JaredPointer]

Just curious as to how many fellow detailers also carry a firearm(s) with them.

It got me wondering the other day - I went into the WM to buy some plinking rounds for several of my guns to shoot at the range over the weekend, and the guy behind the counter said they have not been able to keep some ammo in stock. Then, another guy at the "outdoors store" said they sure have been selling a lot of pistols as of late.

I suppose how you carry is dependent upon your state's laws. For example, Alabama is a concealed carry state, with the license being reciprocal in several other states.

Feel free to discuss, however this is such a hot topic, let's try to keep it on the course of the subject. Let's not turn it into an anti versus gun nut debate.

[Autogeek]

I'm taking my CWP course Sunday, but am also applying to local PDs / Sheriffs offices. I won't need the CWP once I'm hired, but I figure I should get it while I can.

[Pockets]

Seeing that I would like to become a cop I will eventually be carrying a hand gun. I bought a 12 gauge shotgun not to long ago and love going out shooting with it. So my answer is No - but i do have some sort of firearm in the house

[Poorboy]

Originally Posted by JaredPointer

I suppose how you carry is dependent upon your state's laws. For example, Alabama is a concealed carry state, with the license being reciprocal in several other states.

This is the bottom line ...here in NY hand guns are a no no ...we have enough crime and some of the toughest gun laws (hand guns) as the population is way too dense and too many so called accidents happen in Night Clubs (subliminal message... Plaxico Burris, P Diddy ..etc .) where drinking is also a factor ... 3 1/2 years minimum jail time for possession you would think people would think twice, but when they offer amnesty for people to hand in unregistered hand guns for cash $$$ , the amount turned in by the general public is staggering

[Autogeek]

I thought Burris was not a CWP holder in the first place, and carrying in a place where (primarily) alcohol is being served is a no-no.

There's nothing wrong with law-abiding citizens carrying firearms for self defense. Restrict law-abiding citizens' rights, and guess what? The idiots and criminals will still break the law regardless, hence what happened with Burris. The only difference then, is that criminals are armed, and law abiding citizens are left vulnerable.

Just my .02.

[CharlesW]

For years I had a CWP when I was involved in carrying a lot of cash.

A Policeman friend of a friend mentioned that if you carry, you need to be ready to use it.
He also said it isn't quite as easy as they make it look on TV. Not only the legal ramifications, but the fact that you may be taking another person's life.
He has done just that when he and another person were under attack from a crazy with a knife. Mace didn't slow the guy down, a bullet did. The cop had been on the force for 30+ years and had never had to shoot anyone before that. Tough guy and it bothered him enough that he left the force a year or two later.

To each his own, but I quit carrying after that discussion.

[black bart]

Originally Posted by Poorboy

This is the bottom line ...here in NY hand guns are a no no ...we have enough crime and some of the toughest gun laws (hand guns) as the population is way too dense and too many so called accidents happen in Night Clubs (subliminal message... Plaxico Burris, P Diddy ..etc .) where drinking is also a factor ... 3 1/2 years minimum jail time for possession you would think people would think twice, but when they offer amnesty for people to hand in unregistered hand guns for cash $$$ , the amount turned in by the general public is staggering

These programs make the liberals feel good and it makes gun shop owners money.

Here a local gun shop buys old broken guns for 20 bucks or less and uses parts from them to repair others but when these buy back programs come along he loads up all of them and gets a couple hundred bucks a piece for them.

Points out how effective these programs are at reducing crime don't it.

[Poorboy]

here the guns are processed to see if they were used in any felony crimes and then melted ...

no it probably doesn't reduce current crime much but it does remove guns from households that have children and people who are not trained or licensed to have them

[black bart]

Originally Posted by Poorboy

here the guns are processed to see if they were used in any felony crimes and then melted ...

no it probably doesn't reduce current crime much but it does remove guns from households that have children and people who are not trained or licensed to have them

Huge difference in location. I have lived here for 75 years and we have had one person killed by a firearm and that was a suicide about 25 years ago.

Way I look at it if he had not had the gun he would have hung himself or took overdose of drugs the gun was just faster.

Nation wide far more Innocent people killed by drunk drivers. Should we outlaw booze.

[Bert]

Originally Posted by black bart

Should we outlaw booze.

Then only outlaws will have a buzz.

[Reddwarf]

I have owned guns in the past. Never carried one on me unless I was hunting or at a shooting range. I no longer own any and don't see a good reason to own them. That's just my personal opinion. I'm not opposed to people owning guns.

I heard on the news that after Obama was elected there was a rush on gun buying because some folks have the misguided thought that the Democrats want to take everyone's guns away and that having an African American as a President will incite riots. Such folly. Sad really that people can be so uninformed and prejudice.

Oops! I think I got on a soap box!

[Jngrbrdman]

My formal education is in the law and criminal justice, and as such I am pretty aware of what happens out there and the need to protect yourself. I don't have a gun (or anything else that will scratch or bump) on my person while I'm detailing, but if I needed to shoot your car full of holes while I was on the job then I could manage it. I've had a conceal carry permit since I was 18 years old and am proud of it.

[black bart]

The local Wal Mart sold out on some calibers of ammo because it was a fear of high taxes on ammo.
The Democrats tried to pas that when Slick Willie was in Office so no reason to believe they won't try again.
While this will reduce the sale of ammo it also denies poor people of the right to defend themselves.

People like Ted Kennedy who are always in-favor of gun control has a armed body guard but don't think others have the right to defend themselves.

[Bert]

Originally Posted by Reddwarf

I heard on the news that after Obama was elected there was a rush on gun buying because some folks have the misguided thought that the Democrats want to take everyone's guns away

I think most gun enthusiasts are just worried that something much stricter than the Assualt Weapons Ban will be passed and are trying to buy the guns and bulk ammunition while it is legal. Back when the assault weapons ban was passed I was for the Ban but when I saw how the Ban defined an assault weapon, I thought it was the dumbest piece of legislation passed in a while.

You could take two identical rifles but when has a traditional rifle grip and and the other has a pistol grip and the second one would have been outlawed but the first legal despite the fact that they operated identically. They are outlawed simply because they look scary.

YouTube - The Truth about Firearms


Theoretically why can't it be - Fully Automatic - Illegal; Semi Automatic, Bolt Action, Lever Action, Pump, Single Shot and other none Fully Automatic Weapons - Legal.

[DLR Detailing]

Interesting thread and responses guys!
Dave