Firearms carry

[ArmstrongDetailing]

Originally Posted by Poorboy

First I'd like to say this thread is probably inappropriate for a detailing forum

Why?

It's an off topic thread in the off topic area of the forum and obviously people have strong opinions about it even us detailers.

I have been asked to kill this thread but I don't see why.

If I kill this one on the grounds that it has nothing to do with detailing then I might as well take the off topic areas off the site.

What am I missing? Why should I close this thread?

[Beemerboy]

Originally Posted by Troy@DetailCity

Why?

It's an off topic thread in the off topic area of the forum and obviously people have strong opinions about it even us detailers.

I have been asked to kill this thread but I don't see why.

If I kill this one on the grounds that it has nothing to do with detailing then I might as well take the off topic areas off the site.

What am I missing? Why should I close this thread?

I don't see a reason to close it, as long as it doesn't turn to name calling and nasty in that way...I for one like a good debate...

[mgerencs]

I own and carry cause I can. Civilians must protect themsleves from evil people and governments. Politicians and their legislation can't. They are part of the problem.

[black bart]

Originally Posted by Troy@DetailCity

Why?

It's an off topic thread in the off topic area of the forum and obviously people have strong opinions about it even us detailers.

I have been asked to kill this thread but I don't see why.

If I kill this one on the grounds that it has nothing to do with detailing then I might as well take the off topic areas off the site.

What am I missing? Why should I close this thread?

Because some disagree with my position on a right to carry.

But that is OK at least the supreme court agrees with me.

[Beemerboy]

Originally Posted by mgerencs

I own and carry cause I can. Civilians must protect themsleves from evil people and governments. Politicians and their legislation can't. They are part of the problem.

Welcome to the forum!

[mgerencs]

Originally Posted by Beemerboy

Welcome to the forum!

Thank you Beemerboy. Nothing like controversey to bring out discussion.

[Beemerboy]

Originally Posted by black bart

Because some disagree with my position on a right to carry.

But that is OK at least the supreme court agrees with me.

Bart...I've read all of this thread...and no one didn't disagree with you to carry...me included...I only stated that for those that are going to carry that they, liked Gearhead pointed out have the proper training to use a gun in a public environment...

[black bart]

We all have our opinion but we know what they say about opinions.

mgerencs you picked a good thread to make your first post.

[Beemerboy]

Originally Posted by mgerencs

Thank you Beemerboy. Nothing like controversey to bring out discussion.

This is not the norm for this site...trust me...but as long as it not a pi$$ing & name calling match then I see no harm.

[Poorboy]

Originally Posted by Troy@DetailCity

Why?

It's an off topic thread in the off topic area of the forum and obviously people have strong opinions about it even us detailers.

I have been asked to kill this thread but I don't see why.

If I kill this one on the grounds that it has nothing to do with detailing then I might as well take the off topic areas off the site.

What am I missing? Why should I close this thread?

should we change this site to debate city
I thought the reason we all come to this site is to share our common interest of DETAILING ...
Should we talk about abortion? That'll get Sheila more involved or how about race or religion
nothing can be more debated than these topics or maybe immigration

Bart like it has been said before there are people and places that absolutely need to be armed and many others who can not comprehend the responsibility that goes with the privilege of a free society and it's benefits ... with every right comes with some limitations ... training, registration, etc..

[ArmstrongDetailing]

I personally don't have a gun but I think it would be prudent to have one for protection.

We live under a stable government but there is no guarantee that things can't change through some extreme circumstances. We feel safe where we live and most people are very civil the way things are now, BUT that can change and if it does I would like to know I can protect my family.

I just watched the movie Blood Diamond again yesterday. That is a pretty sobering movie to watch seeing whole towns/villages being slaughtered and children being stolen because they couldn't defend themselves. Does that happen here? No. Could it? It's not likely but I would rather be armed if it ever did.

[Poorboy]

Originally Posted by Troy@DetailCity

I just watched the movie Blood Diamond again yesterday. That is a pretty sobering movie to watch seeing whole towns/villages being slaughtered and children being stolen because they couldn't defend themselves. Does that happen here? No. Could it? It's not likely but I would rather be armed if it ever did.

if it gets like that i'm moving to Canada where there's a lot of yellow clay

[ArmstrongDetailing]

Originally Posted by Poorboy

should we change this site to debate city
I thought the reason we all come to this site is to share our common interest of DETAILING ...
Should we talk about abortion? That'll get Sheila more involved or how about race or religion
nothing can be more debated than these topics or maybe immigration

If you want to start off topic threads on those topics I won't stop you. I'm not gonna tell people they can't debate these issues here. As long as our no bashing policy is followed along with our other rules... go for it. I doubt all detailing discussion will be over taken by these threads. If it does then I might step in but until then debate all you want.

I personally find it interesting to see how my fellow detailers view other topics besides detailing.

[black bart]

Originally Posted by Beemerboy

Bart...I've read all of this thread...and no one didn't disagree with you to carry...me included...I only stated that for those that are going to carry that they, liked Gearhead pointed out have the proper training to use a gun in a public environment...

I don't have a problem with that other than that is the camel sticking his nose under the tent or to put it another way this would be the first step toward more and more regulations in an effort to keep people from owning and carrying a firearm.

First would be training then a high priced permit and if you carry you must have the permit and any other thing that the anti gun crowd can think of.

Most people who support gun laws base it on what the Liberal Electronic press tells them.

Example is how a lot of people support the assault rifle ban but don't know what an assault rifle really is they go with what they are told by the media and it is WRONG.

The federal firearms act was passed in 1934 outlawing owning a fully automatic weapon without the 200 dollar federal stamp.

Since then tens of thousands have owned them I have several myself and since 1934 not ONE legally registered machine gun has been used in the commission of a crime.

So what you support is a law that is to be the solution to a problem that don't exist.

These are well meaning people but by relying on the media leaves them without enough correct info to make an intelligent decision

[Poorboy]

Originally Posted by Troy@DetailCity

If you want to start off topic threads on those topics I won't stop you. I'm not gonna tell people they can't debate these issues here. As long as our no bashing policy is followed along with our other rules... go for it. I doubt all detailing discussion will be over taken by these threads. If it does then I might step in but until then debate all you want.

I personally find it interesting to see how my fellow detailers view other topics besides detailing.

so you mean if I start everyone the thread stops