Expensive wax is it worth the $$$$

[CharlesW]

Originally Posted by JohnHenry

Do tell, Tucker... what is your miracle product?

I'm sure he would, but the moderators at many of the forums he shills pick on him.

Originally Posted by Tuckermatic

Sad thing is. if you find something better and attempt to talk about it, moderators in many forums will delete your post and ban you as a member.
This type of censorship is common in biased forums.

I have found that when any discussion of a product upsets the moderators it's worth looking into.
Why?
Usually it's a better product than their site is promoting.
If not they would ignore it.
The fact is, there is a much better product to protect the color and shine of acrylic paint than common wax but you won't find it in any forum heavily sponsored by wax sellers.

Even the complaining about his treatment is suspect.
His post hasn't been deleted and he obviously hasn't been banned.
So.... How do you decide what is fact and what is fiction in what he has to say.
Actually, he has been here before with very nearly the same pitch and since we are responding to him, he will probably just suck it up and go ahead and post/shill the product in spite of the way he will be treated.

While I don't remember for sure, it seems like someone found a connection between Tuckermatic and the product he raves about. Does anyone recall if that was the case?

[JaredPointer]

Pittmans vaporwax

all you cavemen better recognize

[CharlesW]

C'mon Jared,
You stole Tuckermatic's lines.
Now that the secret is out, what more can he say?




I'll bet he will come up with something.

[Poorboy]

Originally Posted by JohnHenry

Do tell, Tucker... what is your miracle product?

why encourage a spammer that is taking a thread off topic

this thread is about Expensive wax ... either you have a yea or nae no one asked for an alternative

[JohnHenry]

Good point. I retract the question.

[Poorboy]

Originally Posted by JohnHenry

Good point. I retract the question.

don't sweat it ... I was waiting for kudos from Beemerboy as his pet peeve is people who take topics away from the intent of the OP ...

[black bart]

Originally Posted by Poorboy

why encourage a spammer that is taking a thread off topic

this thread is about Expensive wax ... either you have a yea or nae no one asked for an alternative

[Poorboy]

Originally Posted by black bart

the question now is ... why haven't you tried it so you can form an opinion

on the other hand when you do try it, please try it on one of your DD's as it probably wouldn't be a fair assessment on your show Vette

[black bart]

Originally Posted by Poorboy

the question now is ... why haven't you tried it so you can form an opinion

on the other hand when you do try it, please try it on one of your DD's as it probably wouldn't be a fair assessment on your show Vette

Steve if you look at my first post I did try it.
On a DD it would be ok because I always clean them in the garage.

Problem is when I use it on the vette and drive say 100 miles to a show it needs cleaned, trying to do that in hot sun smears and smudges the melting wax and you rub the dirt into it making an abrasive brown streaked mess.

I could use it on my DD but since sealant lasts longer cost less and is faster easier to apply and remove I don't use the wax.

I need to make room in my garage next spring I probably will get rid of dozens of cans of wax that have been sitting on the shelves for several years.

[Blackfire]

I've waxed my black car with Fuzion, Pinnacle, MaxWax and Collinite 476.

They all look great on black. The most durable and least expensive was the Collinite 476.

The MaxWax made the metallic pop. The Fuzion gave it a highly reflective shine. The Pinnacle was equal to the Collinite in appearance.

All were applied over WGDGPS 3.0

When I use up the expensive wax, I'll stick to MaxWax during nice weather and Collinite for winter prep.

	Pinnacle Natural Brilliance Pinnacle Natural Brilliance is a collection of world class car care products, including our benchmark car wax, Pinnacle Souveran Carnauba Paste Wax.

[Poorboy]

Originally Posted by black bart

Steve if you look at my first post I did try it.

oops my bad

[togwt]

Carnauba wax price tag $50,000?

Speaks volumes for the marketing of a product

With organic waxes you reach a certain price point, usually over $200, when you are not just paying for the basic ingredients anymore. Value, like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder.

The set price point of a high dollar wax has to recuperate:
- R&D costs, the so called speciality waxes or a glaze usually sells in small numbers
- Product packaging, usually eye catching and expensive
- Marketing cost are high as the product needs to appeal to an exclusive market segment
- Vendor mark-up, due to low volume sales this is usually much higher than for other products
- A higher than average price tends to add to the elitist or exclusivity factor
- Carnauba % content is a very inaccurate method to assess overall performance or value

Then there is the luxury effect and products uniqueness. Mr Royce said this about the price charged for RR automobiles [The price charged is whatever the market will stand]

In the final analysis; a wax or sealant can only reflect what is underneath it, so a clean, level well-prepared surface is the most important consideration (85% of a surfaces reflectivity is its preparation) along with applied product clarity

[njcarting1]

NO not at all...

[JaredPointer]

You guys are just a bunch of cavemen whose world is coming to an end. Just like when you first saw fire..... CAVEMEN!!!!!

[GearHead_1]

Originally Posted by togwt

(85% of a surfaces reflectivity is its preparation) along with applied product clarity

Any detailer knows that vehicle prep is where it's at when it comes to making a vehicle shine. That said, I don't have a clue how someone can present a statistic that determines what percentage of a vehicles reflection is due to the prep work. That number just seems so arbitrary.

Maybe 20% of the shine is due to the light of the caveman's fire. Don't you think that the way the paint was laid down plays a pretty good percentage in this equation? You sure it couldn't be 5 points higher or 5 points lower? No offense but this seems like drivel designed to attract the attention of someone not paying attention to what their reading.

"When the student is ready, the teacher will appear." Inquiring student wants to know.