M205 users--how are you finishing?

[wfedwar]

I`ve seen about an equal number of posts from people who either 1) think M205 finishes off as good or better than anything on the market and 2) can`t get it to finish down well (even seen some people say 105 finishes better) and follow it with Ultrafina or soemthing similar. So which is it???

[Carticular]

M205 finishes off perfectly for me, M105 doesn`t finish well enough for me to skip M205. I`m not a pro, but I`ve used it on Audi, Mitsubishi, Toyota, Mazda, and Hyundai. There`s a post that shows "after" pictures of all types of cars using M205 as the last polishing step.

[imported_Jakerooni]

205 finishes out just fine for most cars. If I get some picky paint I`ll follow up with Ultrafina. But not always.

[Dan]

Pad selection a big factor, I`m wondering if the people that have problems aren`t using a finishing pad. I get great results with a megs tan pad.

[Street5927]

Like Jake said, most of the time, 205 finishes down just perfectly. However, I usually choose to finish those rare ocassions with 85rd. I have not yet tried the ultrafina.

[proudpoppa]

Tan megs pad at 900-1500-900 to finish. rare occasion i have to go back over with pc but not often.

[gmblack3]

Finishing via 205 with a PC via the KBM.



Pad selection- Depending on CC hardness and how hard I had to cut with M105, I use a white LC flat pad for harder clears or a black LC flat for softer clears.



1. Prime the entire face of the pad w/ M205 and work it into the pad a bit.

2. Speed 6 on your PC.

3. Apply firm pressure and do not let up at the end.



If the clear is hard with more defects to remove, go slower.

[EBPcivicsi]

Lots of variables here, including how hard the paint is, machine, pad, and technique.



I find that on 90% of vehicles, finishing down with a flex and a *flat* red american buffing pad, meguiars 2.0 black finishing pad, or even a new oragnge pad is fairly easy.



With the flex, pc, etc what gmlack3a stated is very important--keep the pressure firm, don`t let up at the end like you would with traditional polishes.



Also with 205 if you work it too long you will move out of its "window" and all of the abrasives/lubricants will be gone risking micromarring from the pad. This will really become apparent if the pad isn`t cleaned well between panels because the dried polish on the edges will start to mar the paint once the lubricants are removed.



These are my findings on "unusual" paint systems--most paints will not be an issue IME.

[Jason M]

Where are you getting American Buffing pads?

[proudpoppa]

dont mean to hijack, hoping this will add to the thread. When using rotary, i prime the pad with 205 before i start. Anyone else do the same, no prime, prime with something else?

[imported_Dave1]

Also with 205 if you work it too long you will move out of its "window" and all of the abrasives/lubricants will be gone risking micromarring from the pad. This will really become apparent if the pad isn`t cleaned well between panels because the dried polish on the edges will start to mar the paint once the lubricants are removed.

Excellent observation....





That small example explains alot.........:xyxthumbs

[Accumulator]

In my (perhaps limited, compared to some other people here), M205 finishes out *VERY* well, great even. But *not* quite as nicely as the finishing polishes from Menzerna.



It`s not like the M205/finishing combo leaves any real *problem* or anything like that, but if you try a final burnishing with Menzerna you just might be surprised at how much of an improvement it makes.



Would the average person notice the difference? I sincerely doubt it. But some people here might appreciate it.

[MichaelSpoots]

As a general rule of thumb, when finishing or jeweling (don`t know if they can be called similar here), do you want to use a faster or slower speed on the DA?

I see that the guy above is using speed 6 on the DA to finish out. Does it make a difference?

[gmblack3]

As a general rule of thumb, when finishing or jeweling (don`t know if they can be called similar here), do you want to use a faster or slower speed on the DA?

I see that the guy above is using speed 6 on the DA to finish out. Does it make a difference?

With 205 (non-diminishing) you want contstant pressure at speed 6. Do not let up or reduce speed setting at the end of your polishing process.



With a diminishing abrasive polish, usually you want to reduce pressure near the end of your process.

[wfedwar]

With 205 (non-diminishing) you want contstant pressure at speed 6. Do not let up or reduce speed setting at the end of your polishing process.



With a diminishing abrasive polish, usually you want to reduce pressure near the end of your process.

Does this apply to Flex-type double action or rotary as well?