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Pavers - 08-31-2010, 06:26 AM

Guys,

By Tuesday of next week I sould be able to drive on the new drive way. What a mess! I had Cambridge Brand Pavers installed. Is there anyone out there that has these? I was told that I cannot seal the pavers for 7-9 months until they "evervess" the white stuff out. (lime I thnk)

I do not plan on applying a surface sealer, I plan on using a penetrating sealer like Miracle Sealants brand Porus Plus.

So now a few questions:

1. Anyone have these? If yes, will the run off from my wheels stain (before I seal it).

2. I see alot of guys doing fancy details on some fancy driveways, any issues ever?

3. Anyone ever have experience with the sealer I mentioned? Its expensive but supose to last 2 years in a residential setting and 1 year commercially.

4. Will a pressure washer pull out a stain from someones car leaking motor oil or anti freeze on it?

5. Does the water from a A/C unit on a car condensing leave a mark?


Thanks, for you responses.

Steve-Maybe you should start selling driveway detailing products!

Jeff

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Re: Pavers - 08-31-2010, 11:01 AM

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Guys,

By Tuesday of next week I sould be able to drive on the new drive way. What a mess! I had Cambridge Brand Pavers installed. Is there anyone out there that has these? I was told that I cannot seal the pavers for 7-9 months until they "evervess" the white stuff out. (lime I thnk)

I do not plan on applying a surface sealer, I plan on using a penetrating sealer like Miracle Sealants brand Porus Plus.

So now a few questions:

1. Anyone have these? If yes, will the run off from my wheels stain (before I seal it).

2. I see alot of guys doing fancy details on some fancy driveways, any issues ever?

3. Anyone ever have experience with the sealer I mentioned? Its expensive but supose to last 2 years in a residential setting and 1 year commercially.

4. Will a pressure washer pull out a stain from someones car leaking motor oil or anti freeze on it?

5. Does the water from a A/C unit on a car condensing leave a mark?


Thanks, for you responses.

Steve-Maybe you should start selling driveway detailing products!

Jeff

Thanks,

Jeff
Hey Jeff,
It's actually called efflorescence, its caused by water pushing the lime out in the brick/mortar and reacting with carbon dioxide. A good way to check if it really is efflorescence is to take your hose to it and get it wet. If the white residue disappears, its definitely efflorescence.

I've never heard of not being able to seal pavers for 7-9 months, did the contractor tell you that?
The only way to "minimize" efflorescence is to seal the pavers. To remove it, it usually takes an acid.

I do not work for this company, I have just had success using their products before. Check out Prosoco.com
-Vanatrol to remove efflorescence
-Paver Enhancer WB for sealing

As far as staining, pavers are pretty porous, so sealing is crucial. As long as they are sealed and there isn't anything left on them for a long period of time, water should remove most of your concerns. If not, there are def cleaners available to assist in removal
   
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Re: Pavers - 08-31-2010, 11:18 AM

Good luck with the new driveway Jeff. I would definitely follow the directions of the people who sold it to you as they are the ones who are going to warranty the pavers. It does seem strange to wait so long, but then again I thought these Cambridge pavers were not in need of sealing well at least from their commercials they are supposed to be top rate and last
As far as a cleaner ... well I won't go there right now


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Re: Pavers - 08-31-2010, 02:55 PM

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As far as a cleaner ... well I won't go there right now


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Re: Pavers - 08-31-2010, 04:23 PM

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Good luck with the new driveway Jeff. I would definitely follow the directions of the people who sold it to you as they are the ones who are going to warranty the pavers. It does seem strange to wait so long, but then again I thought these Cambridge pavers were not in need of sealing well at least from their commercials they are supposed to be top rate and last
As far as a cleaner ... well I won't go there right now
I have a few test running in my lab (read garage) and motor oil stains, p21S does not, PB SSS does not at correct dilution and I will dunk a paver in my wheel bucket which is usually black next time I wash. I will report back.
These pavers look great and supose to last forever and the color is supose to hold. I will buy a longer hose and wash in the street for a while until i get them sealed. Most likely after the winter.
   
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Re: Pavers - 08-31-2010, 05:50 PM

Believe it or not, WD40 is supposed to displace (fresh) motor oil. I've had limited success with this method. I also put a handful of kitty litter on the stain and grind it with my foot.

Don't know about Cambridge, but for regular untreated interlocking pavers, I've had great luck sealing with the following:

- 1st coat... Ultra-Seal, cut 30% with Xylene. (allows the sealant to penetrate)
- 2nd coat... Ultra-Seal, cut 10% with Xylene.
- Final coat... straight Ultra-Seal
Apply with a commercial (steel w/ brass fittings) pressure sprayer. Clean the sprayer with straight Xylene.

Ultra-Seal, Xylene (get the 5 gallon cans) and a good sprayer can be found at Cemex stores.

Tire treatment will definitely stain most pavers... leaves a light colored stain when the driveway is wet. Put down a towel.

edit: There's a nasty thick waterproofing sealant (for roofs, I think) called UltraSeal. That's obviously not what I'm talking about. This stuff is a concrete sealer that goes on milky white and dries clear.


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Re: Pavers - 08-31-2010, 08:48 PM

Thanks very much. I will look into it.

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Believe it or not, WD40 is supposed to displace (fresh) motor oil. I've had limited success with this method. I also put a handful of kitty litter on the stain and grind it with my foot.

Don't know about Cambridge, but for regular untreated interlocking pavers, I've had great luck sealing with the following:

- 1st coat... Ultra-Seal, cut 30% with Xylene. (allows the sealant to penetrate)
- 2nd coat... Ultra-Seal, cut 10% with Xylene.
- Final coat... straight Ultra-Seal
Apply with a commercial (steel w/ brass fittings) pressure sprayer. Clean the sprayer with straight Xylene.

Ultra-Seal, Xylene (get the 5 gallon cans) and a good sprayer can be found at Cemex stores.

Tire treatment will definitely stain most pavers... leaves a light colored stain when the driveway is wet. Put down a towel.

edit: There's a nasty thick waterproofing sealant (for roofs, I think) called UltraSeal. That's obviously not what I'm talking about. This stuff is a concrete sealer that goes on milky white and dries clear.
   
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Re: Pavers - 09-10-2010, 07:27 AM

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Good luck with the new driveway Jeff. I would definitely follow the directions of the people who sold it to you as they are the ones who are going to warranty the pavers. It does seem strange to wait so long, but then again I thought these Cambridge pavers were not in need of sealing well at least from their commercials they are supposed to be top rate and last
As far as a cleaner ... well I won't go there right now
They hold their color for life. We will see. But they do stain.
   
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Re: Pavers - 11-09-2010, 05:00 PM

I havent heard of wd40 removing oil stains, but when I used to work at a shop we would use brake cleaner with good success. We would just spray and then scrub and then rinse it out.l
   
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