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pre-soak - 01-28-2010, 03:40 PM

So I have been using the same type of soap that is used in a laser wash(touchless) in my foamer lately. I have had some pretty good results. What I do is foam the entire car including tires, wheel wells, and rims, scrub the the rims and by the time I'm done scrubing I start the rinse. I rinse from the bottom to the top(as not to wash the product off), it doesn't get it clean enough to justify not doing anything else though. What I do is use a SW and an Absorber to dry, the results are very good. It cuts the time of a full service wash from 45 min to 30 min, and in these times I'm out to do more with the time I'm given. Any thoughts or experience would be appreciated.
   
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Re: pre-soak - 01-28-2010, 03:42 PM

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So I have been using the same type of soap that is used in a laser wash(touchless) in my foamer lately. I have had some pretty good results. What I do is foam the entire car including tires, wheel wells, and rims, scrub the the rims and by the time I'm done scrubing I start the rinse. I rinse from the bottom to the top(as not to wash the product off), it doesn't get it clean enough to justify not doing anything else though. What I do is use a SW and an Absorber to dry, the results are very good. It cuts the time of a full service wash from 45 min to 30 min, and in these times I'm out to do more with the time I'm given. Any thoughts or experience would be appreciated.
Are you rewaxing after this? Because most of those touchless washes are very heavy in degreasers and other products that will strip the wax off your car. It's how they clean so well without touching.
   
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Re: pre-soak - 01-28-2010, 03:47 PM

I have to disagree the way they clean is by using Alkolines(sp), I haven't noticed any stripping. Most of these cars are repeat clients and week after week the water is still beading.
   
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Re: pre-soak - 01-28-2010, 03:48 PM

I also thought that it would strip the wax but much to my suprise it doesn't effect it what so ever.
   
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Re: pre-soak - 01-28-2010, 03:53 PM

KGB asked the question I came here to ask.

What methods are you using to determine that it's not stripping wax?


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Re: pre-soak - 01-28-2010, 03:58 PM

As I said, I maintain the majority of the cars I use this method on. It's been about a month and a half (3-5 washes)and the water is still beading like the day I waxed it. Also I use SW everytime I dry, I know SW isn't really durable but it helps.
   
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Re: pre-soak - 01-28-2010, 04:01 PM

I don't have any scientific way of telling, just keeping my eye on how tight the beads stay.
   
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Re: pre-soak - 01-28-2010, 04:10 PM

I guess a lot of it would depend on the concentration. I know my buddy has a touchless and in the winter he pumps up the concentration to help get the salt off easier.
   
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Re: pre-soak - 01-28-2010, 04:12 PM

I use it 80:1
   
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Re: pre-soak - 01-28-2010, 04:16 PM

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As I said, I maintain the majority of the cars I use this method on. It's been about a month and a half (3-5 washes)and the water is still beading like the day I waxed it. Also I use SW everytime I dry, I know SW isn't really durable but it helps.
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Re: pre-soak - 01-28-2010, 04:32 PM

I might be mistaken, but for some reason I thought that the touchless washes first used an acidic wash followed by an alkaline wash and then the rinse. I'm not in that business so I am not certain about the makeup of those chemicals. Is your distributor providing you the product information verbally or back-up materials?


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Re: pre-soak - 01-28-2010, 06:29 PM

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I might be mistaken, but for some reason I thought that the touchless washes first used an acidic wash followed by an alkaline wash and then the rinse. I'm not in that business so I am not certain about the makeup of those chemicals. Is your distributor providing you the product information verbally or back-up materials?
The warning from Honda said that. Hydroflouric acid to be exact.


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Re: pre-soak - 01-28-2010, 08:16 PM

No hydrofloric acid, I was informed that some washes use acid for windows and chrome.
   
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Re: pre-soak - 01-28-2010, 09:38 PM

I heard that, I saw this damage before and it's no joke. I checked and there is no acid in the pre-soak I'm using.
   
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