I have never used a clay bar on my current car or any previous cars, only because I never knew about it. Anyway, I just bought a brand new car and have had it for a week. I just washed it, polished it, then waxed it today. My question is, since it's a new car is it necessary to use a clay bar on it yet? And if not, how long would you wait until you clayed a new car?
Clay it right off the lot. Vehicles get delivered by train sometimes and the rail dust gets on the car and if not removed, will cause little rust spots on your paint. If you run your hand across the paint and feel any bumps, then its time to clay. Welcome to DC
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Well, I just waxed it two days ago now without claying it. I have heard that you shouldnt wax your car too much because its not good for the paint. Should I wait until my next wax to clay it? Or should I just go ahead and wash, clay, wash, polish, wax again soon?
Well, I just waxed it two days ago now without claying it. I have heard that you shouldnt wax your car too much because its not good for the paint. Should I wait until my next wax to clay it? Or should I just go ahead and wash, clay, wash, polish, wax again soon?
It is never a bad thing to wax your car. I'd go ahead and clay it as soon as you can. You don't want any of the contaminents on your paint to stay there for too long.
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Well, I just waxed it two days ago now without claying it. I have heard that you shouldnt wax your car too much because its not good for the paint. Should I wait until my next wax to clay it? Or should I just go ahead and wash, clay, wash, polish, wax again soon?
Ok, just rewash your vehicle with "Dawn". Then clay it.
"I heard that you shouldnt wax your car too much because it's not good for the paint". Not true, however if the prep is done correctly, a sealer, and 2 coats of a quality carnuba is all you really need.
IMHO, anymore than that is really just for "bragging rights".
Ok, just rewash your vehicle with "Dawn". Then clay it.
DO NOT wash your car with dish soap!!! It is not PH balanced to be used as car wash soap. If you don't believe me, call Dawn @ 1-800-725-3296 and ask them for yourself. Please, take the time and do it correctly. A good wash, clay, and polish will remove any of the old product to give you a brand new starting point.
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DO NOT wash your car with dish soap!!! It is not PH balanced to be used as car wash soap. If you don't believe me, call Dawn @ 1-800-725-3296 and ask them for yourself. Please, take the time and do it correctly. A good wash, clay, and polish will remove any of the old product to give you a brand new starting point.
audiboy, could you please explain the whole "PH" concept. I dont want to get into another pissing contest here on this forum, but what type of water are you using, hard water, DI water, or just soft water? It's relevent to the whole PH idea I would think.
DI water PH?
Soft water PH?
Hard water PH?
My point is depending on what water you use determins the PH balance, right?
I'm using hard water, but in any case, Dawn or any other dish soap is not formulated for automotive paint. It is made to take the grease and grime off of your kitchenware. Automotive soap is made for your paint and is all I suggest any detailer use on any vehicle. I just like to keep dish soap in the kitchen and auto soap in the garage.
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I'm using hard water, but in any case, Dawn or any other dish soap is not formulated for automotive paint. It is made to take the grease and grime off of your kitchenware. Automotive soap is made for your paint and is all I suggest any detailer use on any vehicle. I just like to keep dish soap in the kitchen and auto soap in the garage.
Makes sence.
audiboy are you familiar with ppm(parts per million)? This is the level of toxins in water. I highly dout that "any" "Automotive Soap" has the ability to completly balance the PH levels in "hard water". I have used "Dawn" on paint finishes before without a issue. I follow that with a good clay bar bath. Then the AIO is applied via PC 7424 at speed #4 with Meg's polishing pad. I then will apply PB EX-P by PC with lake country black finishing pad for a nice even coat. Let stand for 30 to 60 minutes and remove with PC on speed #5 with MF bonnet. Finally I would go over the detroyed "Dawn" washed paint with either Natty's or P21s(2x) if needed.
Now I would "bet the farm" that if you didnt know It was washed with "Dawn" you couldnt, and wouldnt be able to see/feel the differnce.
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audiboy are you familiar with ppm(parts per million)? This is the level of toxins in water. I highly dout that "any" "Automotive Soap" has the ability to completly balance the PH levels in "hard water".
I realize that automotive soap cannot perfectly balance the PH levels in any random water sample. It will however, get it close to being the correct balance for automotive paint. This PH level will be a lot closer than a dish soap mixture.
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Now I would "bet the farm" that if you didnt know It was washed with "Dawn" you couldnt, and wouldnt be able to see/feel the differnce.
You're probably right, but I can't say for sure since I have never seen or felt a vehicle after a dish soap wash and no other work.
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I realize that automotive soap cannot perfectly balance the PH levels in any random water sample. It will however, get it close to being the correct balance for automotive paint. This PH level will be a lot closer than a dish soap mixture.
You're probably right, but I can't say for sure since I have never seen or felt a vehicle after a dish soap wash and no other work.
"This PH level will be a lot closer than dish soap". I dont know, have you used some of these OTC "automotive soaps"? Most are junk.(Kit/Blue coral/Zip Wax just to name a few.
Now I'll tell you my prefered water/soap selection.
Soft water from my home, sent through my DI set up right in to my 90 gallon tank. My soap well I use a brand call "AutoSmart". Wich I might add "claims" to balance the PH levels in "hard water".
Any real detailer will tell you, DI water is the right way, and the only way to wash cars/trucks correctly. Especially in the direct sun. Oh how sweet it is........ DI water is the tickect, hard water you've got to be kiding me, right?
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04-29-2006, 08:14 PM
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