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Using car soap and water as a clay lube? - 01-31-2006, 01:59 AM

hi all,

hmmm......so far ive been using car soap and water diluted as lubricant when i clay my car. i just wanted to know if this is ok or not?

i tend to notice that some people use QD as a lube. if using soap and and water is not good, let me know. i normally use megs. gold class shampoo to wash my car.

i take a little bit of soap and dilute it with water to use as my clay lube.
   
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Re: Using car soap and water as a clay lube? - 01-31-2006, 05:31 AM

That is fine, though if you can afford the time and money for QD, diluted to about half, do it.


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Re: Using car soap and water as a clay lube? - 01-31-2006, 07:50 AM

Yeah, it's fine. That's what I use as a clay lube, although I perform the clay step during the wash process. It's the same lube though - soap and water.


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Re: Using car soap and water as a clay lube? - 01-31-2006, 08:49 AM

I like to use a lube, to me the lube feels slicker and the clay bar glides over the paint a lot nicer , less of a chance to marr/scrarch the finish.
   
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Re: Using car soap and water as a clay lube? - 01-31-2006, 09:14 AM

I clay during the wash like Jared, and I have 1/2 ounce of CG to 15.5 ounces of water in a spray bottle for when the suds get thin and more lube is needed. Saves a lot of time, money, and energy over the traditional way.
   
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Re: Using car soap and water as a clay lube? - 01-31-2006, 12:41 PM

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... although I perform the clay step during the wash process....
On my personal vehicles and on other well maintained vehicles this is the way to go. It is a nice time saver. However, on a vehicles that are extremely dirty, I will complete my wash completely rinse and with a fresh wash bucket I will go over the vehicle again. If I sense the need, I will, for added lubrication, also hit the soapy surface with a shot of QD. Now that I have the foam gun, I can replace the extra wash bucket, but will still use the QD. I buy lots of QD and with the exception of S&W I rarely dilute.
   
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Re: Using car soap and water as a clay lube? - 02-04-2006, 09:55 AM

It the dilution rate isn't good it will break down the cb.
   
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Re: Using car soap and water as a clay lube? - 02-04-2006, 11:08 AM

I've been using soapy water as a lube all year and I haven't had a problem with clay breaking down. I just use Eagle One Bucketless Wash and spray a little in a 32 ounce spray bottle of water. It has worked great. EOBW (new acronym!) is pretty thin as it is, so it mixes in the water faster than a glob of normal wash. It's not quite as soapy either, so you don't have as much clean up after you are done.


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Re: Using car soap and water as a clay lube? - 02-04-2006, 12:12 PM

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I've been using soapy water as a lube all year and I haven't had a problem with clay breaking down. I just use Eagle One Bucketless Wash and spray a little in a 32 ounce spray bottle of water. It has worked great. EOBW (new acronym!) is pretty thin as it is, so it mixes in the water faster than a glob of normal wash. It's not quite as soapy either, so you don't have as much clean up after you are done.
Jngr, try mixing an ounce of soap with 31 ounces water in that 32 ounce spray bottle...it will not be globby or anything and it will be more economical.
   
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Re: Using car soap and water as a clay lube? - 02-04-2006, 12:53 PM

I think you are talking about pennies when you compare the value of using normal soap and bucketless wash with water as clay lube. Either way is more economical than buying QD or specific clay lube for the job.


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Re: Using car soap and water as a clay lube? - 02-04-2006, 12:54 PM

True, but I'm saying that people might as well use the soap they already have on hand.
   
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Re: Using car soap and water as a clay lube? - 02-04-2006, 01:05 PM

I mix about an ounce of Meguiar's #00 and the rest with distilled water in a 32oz. spray bottle.

The gentle #00 doesn't break down the clay and it is super slippery and not sudsy (known for it's lubrication abilities).

It costs pennies to make and does as good a job as clay lube (mostly water).


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Re: Using car soap and water as a clay lube? - 02-04-2006, 01:05 PM

That is true too, but the bucketless wash makes a great presoaker product and is worth adding to the aresnal. Either way, soap and water makes a good lube. I think that is the common message we are both trying to get across.


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Re: Using car soap and water as a clay lube? - 02-04-2006, 01:14 PM

The only clay I have in my arsenal is Meguiar's and I have found it to
break up into tiny pieces after awhile using a soap/water solution.


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Re: Using car soap and water as a clay lube? - 02-04-2006, 01:26 PM

That is actually a common problem. I've been reading about crumbly Meguiar's clay for the last 5 years. Try Mother's or Clay Magic and I'll bet you won't have the same problem. Technically there are only two types of clay in the industry. Elastic and Plastic. Meguiar's is the Plastic version and Mother's is the elastic. Same with Clay Magic. The problem you are having with Meguiar's will likely be the same problem with any other clay of that type. Someone correct me if I have those backward, but that is how it was explained to me back when the debate was hot.


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