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Full wet sand n' buff on '05 NBP Acura RL, by Rasky's Auto Detailing - 10-08-2009, 03:03 PM

***Let me first start by saying that this car underwent a full repaint and that this is NOT something I recommend you do on a factory painted car to remove orange peel.***

This is actually my fiancée and the car, which got hammered with over $9k in hail damage! My father works at the body shop where the work was done and I offered to do the wet sanding and buffing in exchange for having the bumpers and side moldings painted….that and I didn’t really want them doing it anyway.

Originally I had planned on doing the work the same week I picked it up knowing just how hard these newer high solids clear coats can get. Unfortunately things kept coming up and the job kept getting pushed out. It was about 4-5 weeks time between when it was painted to when I started the work…not good.

As my past experience has shown, the clear was indeed rock hard! Probably the hardest I have ever worked on and my normal process for wet sanding had to be tweaked in order to work with this paint type.

Wet sanding process:

-3M P800 via DA with soft interface pad for initial leveling (I taped off the edges 1/16-1/8 away for this step since I wanted to avoid thinning an edge too much)
-3M P1500 grit via DA with soft interface pad.
-3M P3000 grit via DA with soft interface pad.

Buffing process:

- 3M Perfect-it 3000 extra cut rubbing compound via rotary and Meguiars Solo heavy cutting pad (cut faster than M95 and Power Gloss but left deep marring)
-Meguiars M95 via rotary and Meguiars Solo light cutting pad (removed heavy marring from the extra cut and picked up any pig tails I may have missed)
-Menzerna SIP via rotary and orange LC Classic pad (finished nicely)
-Meguiars M205 via PC7424XP and White LC Classic pad (removed any remaining buffer trails left behind from SIP)
-Menzerna PO85RD via rotary and black LC Classic pad (Icing on the cake!)

My choice of LSP was Blackfire Wet-Diamond.


Pre hail damage the paint on this car was actually like glass right from the factory. As you will see, after the car was painted it had some pretty serious orange peel, and to be honest, I wasn’t really happy with the way it came out. While my father did all the body work on the car, they do have dedicated painters at his shop so I couldn’t blame him in any way. They shop normally turn out top notch work. regardless, I didn’t feel it was so bad that it needed to be redone, but it definitely meant taking off more clear than I really wanted too in order to get it to the level it was at prior to the damage.

Before sanding I spoke with the manager about the paint thickness readings I found on all the new panels and wanted to ensure full paint warranty if I were to level the paint myself….which he assured me they would honor.

On with the pics!!!

Bad orange peel













Sanding in process












   
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Re: Full wet sand n' buff on '05 NBP Acura RL, by Rasky's Auto Detailing - 10-08-2009, 03:05 PM

After pics!





























Brinkmann



Halogen



Flash (I like how this made the blue pearl POP)


I drove the car about 30 miles before these pics so there may be some light dust on the car…



























I didn’t keep track of my time on this job since I wasn’t getting paid to do it, but I'd guess I have around 40 hours invested….either way, I’d say the fiancée definitely owes me some serious luvin’!!!



Thanks For looking!


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Re: Full wet sand n' buff on '05 NBP Acura RL, by Rasky's Auto Detailing - 10-08-2009, 04:30 PM

looks great ...im getting ready to start learning color sanding ..


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Re: Full wet sand n' buff on '05 NBP Acura RL, by Rasky's Auto Detailing - 10-08-2009, 04:51 PM

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looks great ...im getting ready to start learning color sanding ..
Thanks!

Big tip on wet sanding....don't wait to do a car 5 weeks after it's painted like I did!
   
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Re: Full wet sand n' buff on '05 NBP Acura RL, by Rasky's Auto Detailing - 10-08-2009, 05:22 PM

i was watching the 3m video on youtube ..the da system looks very good ..ive got a spare hood for my car to practice on ..


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Re: Full wet sand n' buff on '05 NBP Acura RL, by Rasky's Auto Detailing - 10-08-2009, 05:29 PM

Looks fantastic - what a great job
   
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Re: Full wet sand n' buff on '05 NBP Acura RL, by Rasky's Auto Detailing - 10-08-2009, 05:34 PM

rasky if you get time can you post a pic of the whole setup you used to accomplish this ..and can you use the pc as a da? im gonna learn to do this ..people ask me to colorsand there cars and i tell them i dont want the liability but im honestly nervous about it ..i learned to use a rotary proficiently now its time to step up to color sanding ..thanks


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Re: Full wet sand n' buff on '05 NBP Acura RL, by Rasky's Auto Detailing - 10-08-2009, 06:29 PM

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rasky if you get time can you post a pic of the whole setup you used to accomplish this ..and can you use the pc as a da? im gonna learn to do this ..people ask me to colorsand there cars and i tell them i dont want the liability but im honestly nervous about it ..i learned to use a rotary proficiently now its time to step up to color sanding ..thanks
I'd refrain from doing it on cars unless you know the history of the paint and have an idea of how much paint is there to play with. I'd pick up a PTG too if it's in the budget. I won't do something like this on OEM paint either.

The PC has a differnt throw than a sanding DA and I wouldn't suggest using it. That and water plus electric tools don't mix well.

I have a cheap DA from Norther tool with a 3M hook-it backing plate but there are much better sander out there than what I have. Check out a Mirka Bulldog sander if you have the cash.

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My DA


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The 3M trizact sanding disks are $$$$ too!
   
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Re: Full wet sand n' buff on '05 NBP Acura RL, by Rasky's Auto Detailing - 10-08-2009, 09:49 PM

Beautiful job as always. !

Yep she owes ya.


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Re: Full wet sand n' buff on '05 NBP Acura RL, by Rasky's Auto Detailing - 10-08-2009, 09:59 PM

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Big tip on wet sanding....don't wait to do a car 5 weeks after it's painted like I did!
Yeah the paint gets really hard after awhile.
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Re: Full wet sand n' buff on '05 NBP Acura RL, by Rasky's Auto Detailing - 10-09-2009, 06:00 AM

I will vouch for Rasky. My dad has an '07 RL in Nighthawk Black and Acura went to great lengths to make sure the factory paint was as orange peel free as possible.

Great work, my friend!


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Re: Full wet sand n' buff on '05 NBP Acura RL, by Rasky's Auto Detailing - 10-09-2009, 06:50 AM

Fantastic!!!
   
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Re: Full wet sand n' buff on '05 NBP Acura RL, by Rasky's Auto Detailing - 10-09-2009, 10:31 AM

Thanks guys!



I think I'm going to leave the badges off too...just gives the car cleaner lines IMO. At first my girl wanted them back on but now that she saw it without she agrees.
   
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Re: Full wet sand n' buff on '05 NBP Acura RL, by Rasky's Auto Detailing - 10-15-2009, 01:40 AM

Finished up the rest of my girls car tonight...



Got the side moldings back on



Cleaned up the engine bay



Interior Before





Interior after











I finally get my own car back tomorrow!!!
   
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Re: Full wet sand n' buff on '05 NBP Acura RL, by Rasky's Auto Detailing - 10-15-2009, 05:50 AM

great work and great whiteup.
   
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