Autopia Forums - Auto Detailing & Car Care Discussion Forum
Go Back   Autopia Forums - Auto Detailing & Car Care Discussion Forum > Autopia Car Care Guide To Detailing > Auto Detailing 101
Auto Detailing 101 Whether you are a professional or a do-it-yourself car owner this is the place to go for the basics of automotive detailing.

» Car Care Brands
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  (#1) Old
Detailing Reject
Dozerboy is starting to get a good reputation around here.
 
Dozerboy's Avatar
 
Suggestions for what to put on GMs wax undercoating? - 02-27-2010, 09:04 PM

I have a 2500HD and the frame is visible from the side. It has a nasty wax coating that GM uses to undercoat there frames. It turned brown shortly after buy the truck and I have never gotten it clean again. Until I took our engine steam cleaner at work to it today. Now thats its clean any suggestions on what to put on it to keep it clean or make it clean up easier?

Thanks


These views on this post are not my own, but rather randomly generated gibberish and in no way should be used to judge my IQ or mental state.
   
Reply With Quote
  (#2) Old
holland_patrick Can Make Rust Shineholland_patrick Can Make Rust Shineholland_patrick Can Make Rust Shineholland_patrick Can Make Rust Shineholland_patrick Can Make Rust Shineholland_patrick Can Make Rust Shineholland_patrick Can Make Rust Shineholland_patrick Can Make Rust Shineholland_patrick Can Make Rust Shineholland_patrick Can Make Rust Shineholland_patrick Can Make Rust Shine
 
holland_patrick's Avatar
 
Re: Suggestions for what to put on GMs wax undercoating? - 02-27-2010, 09:43 PM

It's not wax it's cosmoline

Cosmoline - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

QUOTE
""Cosmoline is the trade name for a generic class of rust preventatives, conforming to MIL-C-11796C Class 3, that are a brown colored wax-like mass; have a slight fluorescence; and have a petroleum-like odor and taste.
Chemically, cosmoline is a xxxxgeneous mixture of oily and waxy long-chain, non-polar hydrocarbons. It is always brown in color, and can differ in viscosity and shear strength. Cosmoline melts at 113-125 °F (45–52 °C) and has a flashpoint of 365 °F (185 °C).
Its most common use is in the storage and preservation of firearms. Previously, cosmoline was used to preserve other items. Objects the size of entire vehicles could be preserved for future use with cosmoline.
During World War II, US Coast Artillerymen (serving the huge coastal artillery batteries) were known as "Cosmoliners" because they were tasked with the near constant cosmoline application ("greasing down") of the guns.
During Pacific island campaigns in World War II, the United States Marines sang a song about cosmoline. Adapting the popular big-band tune "Tangerine," they would sing "Cosmoline...keeps my rifle clean."
Due to its gelatinous nature, cosmoline can be difficult to remove completely from firearms and, as such, is being extensively replaced with vacuum-pack PET film.
""


Just keep it clean..


Words of Wisdom from Brak
"In a restaurant, if you order chicken salad and egg salad,
which one will come out first?"
:drunk
   
Reply With Quote
  (#3) Old
Flannells Pro Detail
mrclean81 Can Make Rust Shinemrclean81 Can Make Rust Shinemrclean81 Can Make Rust Shinemrclean81 Can Make Rust Shinemrclean81 Can Make Rust Shine
 
mrclean81's Avatar
 
Re: Suggestions for what to put on GMs wax undercoating? - 02-27-2010, 10:05 PM

If you have access to a steam washer, use it on a regular basis. That would be your best bet on keeping the frame looking new. After it wears off and the frame starts to rust I would suggest a high grade rubberized undercoating like Penray. It don't run or clump up and is satin black in color.


   
Reply With Quote
  (#4) Old
jtford95 is starting to get a good reputation around here.
 
Re: Suggestions for what to put on GMs wax undercoating? - 02-27-2010, 10:06 PM

Patrick, I didn't know you were a chemist.Good to know.
   
Reply With Quote
  (#5) Old
SuperDuper Moderator
GearHead_1 Can Make Rust ShineGearHead_1 Can Make Rust ShineGearHead_1 Can Make Rust ShineGearHead_1 Can Make Rust ShineGearHead_1 Can Make Rust ShineGearHead_1 Can Make Rust ShineGearHead_1 Can Make Rust ShineGearHead_1 Can Make Rust ShineGearHead_1 Can Make Rust ShineGearHead_1 Can Make Rust ShineGearHead_1 Can Make Rust Shine
 
GearHead_1's Avatar
 
Re: Suggestions for what to put on GMs wax undercoating? - 02-27-2010, 10:19 PM

Once you get a clean metal surface spray it with Rustoleum (take your choice of colors including clear, frames look fine black). It will last a couple to a few years in most cases.


ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ
Liberty is ours to lose. Stand tall, stand firm, stand together!
   
Reply With Quote
  (#6) Old
"Shiny Lil Detlr"
C. Charles Hahn Can Make Rust ShineC. Charles Hahn Can Make Rust ShineC. Charles Hahn Can Make Rust ShineC. Charles Hahn Can Make Rust ShineC. Charles Hahn Can Make Rust ShineC. Charles Hahn Can Make Rust ShineC. Charles Hahn Can Make Rust ShineC. Charles Hahn Can Make Rust Shine
 
C. Charles Hahn's Avatar
 
Re: Suggestions for what to put on GMs wax undercoating? - 02-27-2010, 10:40 PM

Can't tell you what to put over it, but I can tell you what you can use to touch it up:

DAUBERT NOX RUST X-121B ~ 11 OZ SPRAY CAN ~ New Surplus : eBay Motors (item 320349062981 end time Mar-06-10 12:26:19 PST)

That's exactly the same material they use at the factory. Here's I-CAR's write up on GM corrosion protection procedures:

About I-CAR - Current Events/News: e-newsletters: Advantage Online: March 25, 2002


Charlie
Automotive Appearance Specialist - Serving Greater Lansing, Michigan
http://www.cchautoappearance.com/
   
Reply With Quote
  (#7) Old
Dewey,Cheatem & Howe ESQ.
njcarting1 is pretty famous around here.njcarting1 is pretty famous around here.njcarting1 is pretty famous around here.
 
Wink Re: Suggestions for what to put on GMs wax undercoating? - 02-28-2010, 06:51 AM

Try and clean the frame with a good degreaser and brush. I would then say use paint from a spray bomb. I have tried the undercoat rout and some will dry with a brownish tint to it so that was not gonna fly. I then used a good quality black spray paint and sprayed the frame 1-2 times a month. The exposed frame rail was black and stayed black and new looking. "Hammered paint" in a can works well and gives some texture to the look and holds up well. Lows, home depot has the stuff, its a staple around here.

Most will say "it's just a truck frame" Yes it is, but its clean like the rest of the ride.
   
Reply With Quote
  (#8) Old
Scott P Can Make Rust ShineScott P Can Make Rust ShineScott P Can Make Rust ShineScott P Can Make Rust ShineScott P Can Make Rust ShineScott P Can Make Rust ShineScott P Can Make Rust Shine
 
Scott P's Avatar
 
Re: Suggestions for what to put on GMs wax undercoating? - 02-28-2010, 07:40 PM

It's funny that the forum software blocks the letters h, o, m and o when put together.

I would strip that stuff off, then clean, prime and paint what was underneath.


"The trouble is that you think you have time." - Jack Kornfeld
   
Reply With Quote
  (#9) Old
holland_patrick Can Make Rust Shineholland_patrick Can Make Rust Shineholland_patrick Can Make Rust Shineholland_patrick Can Make Rust Shineholland_patrick Can Make Rust Shineholland_patrick Can Make Rust Shineholland_patrick Can Make Rust Shineholland_patrick Can Make Rust Shineholland_patrick Can Make Rust Shineholland_patrick Can Make Rust Shineholland_patrick Can Make Rust Shine
 
holland_patrick's Avatar
 
Re: Suggestions for what to put on GMs wax undercoating? - 02-28-2010, 08:31 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by jtford95 View Post
Patrick, I didn't know you were a chemist.Good to know.
Nope not a chemist.. Just a firefighter...but there is a lot of chemistry in that field


Words of Wisdom from Brak
"In a restaurant, if you order chicken salad and egg salad,
which one will come out first?"
:drunk
   
Reply With Quote
  (#10) Old
"Shiny Lil Detlr"
C. Charles Hahn Can Make Rust ShineC. Charles Hahn Can Make Rust ShineC. Charles Hahn Can Make Rust ShineC. Charles Hahn Can Make Rust ShineC. Charles Hahn Can Make Rust ShineC. Charles Hahn Can Make Rust ShineC. Charles Hahn Can Make Rust ShineC. Charles Hahn Can Make Rust Shine
 
C. Charles Hahn's Avatar
 
Re: Suggestions for what to put on GMs wax undercoating? - 03-01-2010, 12:09 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Scott P View Post
It's funny that the forum software blocks the letters h, o, m and o when put together.

I would strip that stuff off, then clean, prime and paint what was underneath.
Guess we can't make any threads about milk.... h-o-m-o-genized and all....


Charlie
Automotive Appearance Specialist - Serving Greater Lansing, Michigan
http://www.cchautoappearance.com/
   
Reply With Quote
  (#11) Old
Detailing Reject
Dozerboy is starting to get a good reputation around here.
 
Dozerboy's Avatar
 
Re: Suggestions for what to put on GMs wax undercoating? - 03-01-2010, 10:13 PM

Thanks guys for the help some day I'm going to strip it down and paint the frame but I'm in no hurry. I keep it clean in side the wheel wells, but its a put more work to do the rest.


These views on this post are not my own, but rather randomly generated gibberish and in no way should be used to judge my IQ or mental state.
   
Reply With Quote
  (#12) Old
JohnHenry Can Make Rust ShineJohnHenry Can Make Rust ShineJohnHenry Can Make Rust ShineJohnHenry Can Make Rust ShineJohnHenry Can Make Rust ShineJohnHenry Can Make Rust ShineJohnHenry Can Make Rust ShineJohnHenry Can Make Rust Shine
 
JohnHenry's Avatar
 
Re: Suggestions for what to put on GMs wax undercoating? - 03-02-2010, 08:47 AM

Dozerboy,

If you're going to the trouble of stripping the frame in the future, I would definitely explore the following products: POR-15, or various stuff in the Eastwood or Caswell catalogs.

Wear a good respirator! Let us know how it goes.


JohnHenry
   
Reply With Quote
  (#13) Old
Jokeman is starting to get a good reputation around here.
 
Jokeman's Avatar
 
Re: Suggestions for what to put on GMs wax undercoating? - 03-07-2010, 11:03 PM

Flat black spray paint works good to cover that stuff.
   
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
wash and wax in the cold 91black5spd Auto Detailing 101 28 11-30-2009 04:21 PM
TOGW = The Other Guy's Wax Mike Phillips The Detail Institute presented by Autopia-CarCare.com 1 10-19-2009 06:05 PM
GRIOTS spray on wax update. PA DETAILER Auto Detailing 101 0 07-11-2008 07:32 PM
winter wax 9D4E420 Detailing Product Reviews 13 03-04-2008 07:07 PM

» Autopia Forums Sponsor
» Current Poll
Hobby, Part-Time, or Full-Time?
Hobby - 60.53%
69 Votes
Part-Time - 26.32%
30 Votes
Full-Time - 13.16%
15 Votes
Total Votes: 114
You may not vote on this poll.
» Total Pros Training Seminars
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.1


3.8.7
vBulletin Skin developed by: vBStyles.com
Copyright ©, 2002-2011, AutopiaForums.com - All Rights Reserved


Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71