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Multiple Sealant applications? - 01-16-2010, 01:29 AM

I'm relatively new to detailing, I've only been doing it for about a year or so. I've been experimenting with sealants and my latest enjoyment is coming from Four Star's Ultimate Paint Protection.
I was wondering if more layers would produce a noticeable better shine or would I just be wasting my time? I'm not unwilling to try it for myself I just wanted to know if anyone else has tried it because the stuff is kinda pricey haha
fyi, I'm applying it with a Flex with a lake country finishing pad on a medium setting.
   
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Re: Multiple Sealant applications? - 01-16-2010, 04:10 AM

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I'm relatively new to detailing, I've only been doing it for about a year or so. I've been experimenting with sealants and my latest enjoyment is coming from Four Star's Ultimate Paint Protection.
I was wondering if more layers would produce a noticeable better shine or would I just be wasting my time? I'm not unwilling to try it for myself I just wanted to know if anyone else has tried it because the stuff is kinda pricey haha
fyi, I'm applying it with a Flex with a lake country finishing pad on a medium setting.
As far as look and protection goes you will not gain much with multi coats of sealant but many will do a second coat just to be sure that they have total coverage.

I use Duragloss 105 for winter protection and only use 1 coat but after the first wash I use Aqua-wax to keep the protection at maximum.

No harm in using more but it is pretty much a waste of time and money
   
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Re: Multiple Sealant applications? - 01-16-2010, 05:07 AM

I normally do at least 2 coats, normally 3.
It assures full coverage and I personally think it looks deeper and better.


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Re: Multiple Sealant applications? - 01-16-2010, 05:41 AM

One thing that I forgot to point out is it depends on what product you are using because some have a mild cleaner and while applying a 2 coat you will remove part of the first coat.
I talked to the chemist at Duragloss and he said after 2 coats you will Begin to mute the clarity.

Whatever you use 2 coats are adequate but many do like to apply multi-coats of wax but the gains are more in making them feel like they are doing something more than actually doing anything to improve the protection.

You ask about a sealant but it should be noted that if you use a wax then you will need to redo it much more often due to short life of wax.
   
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Re: Multiple Sealant applications? - 01-16-2010, 11:11 AM

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One thing that I forgot to point out is it depends on what product you are using because some have a mild cleaner and while applying a 2 coat you will remove part of the first coat.
I talked to the chemist at Duragloss and he said after 2 coats you will Begin to mute the clarity.

Whatever you use 2 coats are adequate but many do like to apply multi-coats of wax but the gains are more in making them feel like they are doing something more than actually doing anything to improve the protection.

You ask about a sealant but it should be noted that if you use a wax then you will need to redo it much more often due to short life of wax.
Right, when I'm using a wax I'd normally put at least 2-3 coats on for maximum coverage and because it definitely improves the depth of the shine.

After applying Four Star for one full step, I went back and touched up the bumpers and trim pieces (which are painted on my car) and it seemed to increase the shine substantially. I might just try doing the whole car again.

I really appreciate the feedback, thanks.


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Re: Multiple Sealant applications? - 01-16-2010, 11:13 AM

I have put on several coats of UPP on my cars in the past. I like the slickness it produces/produced.Try the Ultimate carwash with UPP. That's a great combo.


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Re: Multiple Sealant applications? - 01-16-2010, 11:32 AM

I have been known to go to the extreme with layers. I found distinct pleasure in doing it. I do not think I added anything to enhance my look after two or three applications yet I to apply layer after layer days on end. I do think that the slickness is what I yearned for when doing multiple layers. UPP is one of those sealants that I consider to be very slick and shiny. In fact the shiniest personal used everyday vehicle I have ever seen had UPP on it. In this case UPP is a good product but the vehicle also had a great detailer/owner doing the work.


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Re: Multiple Sealant applications? - 01-16-2010, 12:18 PM

If you are planning on layering just wait 12-24 hrs between coats.


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Re: Multiple Sealant applications? - 01-16-2010, 12:24 PM

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I normally do at least 2 coats, normally 3.
It assures full coverage and I personally think it looks deeper and better.
I agree with Ron on this, you get better coverage and gain a lot more depth in the shine.

Up until I did this on my jet black BMW I was impressed with two or more coats. I noticed right away the difference


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Re: Multiple Sealant applications? - 01-16-2010, 12:26 PM

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I'm relatively new to detailing, I've only been doing it for about a year or so. I've been experimenting with sealants and my latest enjoyment is coming from Four Star's Ultimate Paint Protection.
I was wondering if more layers would produce a noticeable better shine or would I just be wasting my time? I'm not unwilling to try it for myself I just wanted to know if anyone else has tried it because the stuff is kinda pricey haha
fyi, I'm applying it with a Flex with a lake country finishing pad on a medium setting.
depends on who's paying for the product
   
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Re: Multiple Sealant applications? - 01-16-2010, 01:32 PM

I think that two coats are needed to ensure complete coverage and three coats do more to ease your mind than anthing else...that's what my rational mind tells me anyway.

My OCD mind however likes to recoat at lease once a week...just to be sure the finish stays 100%


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Re: Multiple Sealant applications? - 01-16-2010, 02:16 PM

Applying 2 coats was more to insure coverage for me than anything.
Since I usually apply more at least every 4 to 6 weeks, I guess I layer it any way.

The UPP was/is a great looking LSP with slickness second to nothing else I have used.



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