Clarification regarding Trade Secret and Pinnacle Souveran

[MattZ28]

Many people think that Top of the Line's Trade Secret wax is the same as Pinnacle Souveran.

They are NOT the same.

After speaking with Max and Jason from Autogeek, I will tell you that they are in no way the same - the color is different, the scent is different, the whole formula is different. Pinnacle does not manufacture wax for Top of the Line.

Yes, they use the same jars. Top of the Line gets their jars from the same manufacturer as Pinnacle. This is the ONLY thing these waxes have in common.

Some confusion may also lie in the fact that the cost of Trade Secret has risen to nearly $40, putting it in the league of "higher end" waxes.

Yes, Trade Secret is decent, but it's no Souveran.

	Pinnacle Natural Brilliance Pinnacle Natural Brilliance is a collection of world class car care products, including our benchmark car wax, Pinnacle Souveran Carnauba Paste Wax.

	Pinnacle Souveran Pinnacle Souverän™ Carnauba Paste Wax is the wax for perfectionists, so named for it’s dazzling, 3-dimensional depth and unmatched brilliance. Formulated with premium grade carnauba, nature’s finest wax, Souverän™ is designed to exceed the standards of the most discriminating enthusiast and collector.

[hammondc]

Thanks! I was wondering that as I am making my list of stuff to buy in about a month when it warms up a little.

[TDMAN]

Originally Posted by MattZ28

Many people think that Top of the Line's Trade Secret wax is the same as Pinnacle Souveran.

They are NOT the same.

After speaking with Max and Jason from Autogeek, I will tell you that they are in no way the same - the color is different, the scent is different, the whole formula is different. Pinnacle does not manufacture wax for Top of the Line.

Yes, they use the same jars. Top of the Line gets their jars from the same manufacturer as Pinnacle. This is the ONLY thing these waxes have in common.

Some confusion may also lie in the fact that the cost of Trade Secret has risen to nearly $40, putting it in the league of "higher end" waxes.

Yes, Trade Secret is decent, but it's no Souveran.

And some would say, that Souveran is decent, but it's no Trade Secret :dj

	Pinnacle Natural Brilliance Pinnacle Natural Brilliance is a collection of world class car care products, including our benchmark car wax, Pinnacle Souveran Carnauba Paste Wax.

	Pinnacle Souveran Pinnacle Souverän™ Carnauba Paste Wax is the wax for perfectionists, so named for it’s dazzling, 3-dimensional depth and unmatched brilliance. Formulated with premium grade carnauba, nature’s finest wax, Souverän™ is designed to exceed the standards of the most discriminating enthusiast and collector.

[Nickc0844]

Originally Posted by MattZ28

Many people think that Top of the Line's Trade Secret wax is the same as Pinnacle Souveran.

....that goes to show that there are 3 sides to every story then....

[klnyc]

Dang, this is same as with s21 and s100. Both of them have same bottle,but different formula. I thiink.

[Nickc0844]

Matt,

As I PM'ed you last week, I am in no way criticizing what you said or have found, nor doubt that there are "some" differences between them.

Irene from TOL called me today and she confirmed that there are indeed differences in the formulation of Trade Secret and Souveran, but they are made by the same chemist. It is up to the user to decide if the results are worth the difference in price.

So, try both and see what you think. I'm finished with the subject.

	Pinnacle Souveran Pinnacle Souverän™ Carnauba Paste Wax is the wax for perfectionists, so named for it’s dazzling, 3-dimensional depth and unmatched brilliance. Formulated with premium grade carnauba, nature’s finest wax, Souverän™ is designed to exceed the standards of the most discriminating enthusiast and collector.