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imported_Solution Finish
04-29-2003, 09:34 PM
I detailed a white car today and man was it hard to see how much AIO I put down and not to mention where. Are there any tricks to help see or did I just work under p!ss poor lighting conditions. I guess when I put the SG on I`ll break out the white cane with the red tip. :cool: Thanks for your suggestions.

Ben Carufel
04-29-2003, 09:53 PM
I know what you mean. My 325i is white and I`ve never bothered to SG it.



With AIO I just try to work in as much light as possible while still staying in the shade. Put your head down RIGHT next to the paint and you can see where you haven`t buffed off the AIO. I usually apply way too much of it so it`s easy to see.

Scottwax
04-29-2003, 10:53 PM
I can`t help you there. I have the same problem with S100. I have to look at the paint at an extreme angle to make sure I covered every inch of the section I`m working.

dbruene
04-29-2003, 10:54 PM
I know what you mean... What I do is to follow the suggestions on the "Autopia Zaino Manual" (http://www.autopia.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=14408) and develop a little regimen and adhere to it every time I work on the car. For my car, it`s

Roof

-left-side: front to back

-right-side: front to back

Hood

-left-side: front to back

-right-side: front to back

Front quarter-panel

-left

-right

Left front door to rear quarter panel

Right front door to rear quarter panel

Rear gate



etc., or any way that you like. I used to do "clockwise" starting from the hood...



Most often I would put down at least 2-3 layers every time I worked on my car, which definitely should have every surface "covered." However, I do stash a couple of fresh MF towels in the trunk afterwards just to catch the spots that I might have missed.



Hope to see other regimens that others practice.



Aloha!



:wavey

Jngrbrdman
04-29-2003, 11:15 PM
Its a huge issue seeing SG on white. I apply it in the shade in my garage and then look down the side of the car toward the open garage door to spot the haze. It seems to work well that way. The only other thing I can suggest is just to feel it with your fingers and look for the areas that grab. It really is a job for a blind man at that point. White is tough with SG. Most light colors are like that.

NY KID
04-30-2003, 07:12 AM
I new to the board and new help with some of your abbrevations like SG and AIO. I have a white ///M3 so maybe I can help.

Mmmph
04-30-2003, 07:41 AM
AIO and SG are acronyms for Klasse products,

All-in-One and Sealant Glaze.



Here`s the Autopia Acronym Dictionary (AAD):

http://www.autopia.org/acronyms.php



BTW, welcome to Autopia. :D

milani
04-30-2003, 08:25 AM
I recently used SG on a white car, and I noticed if you work in very small sections, you can see what you have covered. If it hazes too quickly, you cannot tell where you have put it on, unless you put on too much. Actually, I worked in my garage with the door open and a 150 watt light, and I could see ok. In more light, it was harder to see. Also, how the paint feels gives it away. The paint feel soooooo smooth when you remove the SG. Also, I have noticed the same thing Scottwax said about S100. If you are putting on "just enough", it is very hard to see where you are. But when you pull that car out into the sun, once you have removed it, put on your sunglasses.:shocked

Accumulator
04-30-2003, 11:22 AM
Welcome, NY Kid.



As far as seeing product on white, I wonder if Lynn will see this post (uses Z on a white Jag).



I find that fogging the surface with my breath not only helps me see the product, but also provides a little moisture that aids in smear-free removal.

chris0626
04-30-2003, 11:45 AM
Well, shucks, Accumulator. Wish I did have a tip. But I have exactly the same problem when applying Z -- it`s darn hard to see, both when applying and removing. Your tip sounds intriguing, though. Are you saying the two areas (one with product and one without) will "fog" differently?

shaf
04-30-2003, 01:24 PM
Originally posted by Lynn

Your tip sounds intriguing, though. Are you saying the two areas (one with product and one without) will "fog" differently? Well, I`m not Accumulator, but I do the same thing when I`m applying SG to my silver car. I fog it up when both applying AND bufffing. Yes, you can tell if there is product applied by the way it fogs because completely buffed product/paint will fog up perfectly evenly, while if there is any product still on there it will look "streaky" and show the lines in the direction in which you applied.



I`ve found this is useful in spot checking for 100% KSG buffing (don`t do it over the whole car :p) if a bit time consuming. I can`t take credit for inventing this idea, but try to advocate it when I can. It really helps with lighter paints and when you`re trying to apply it as thin as possible.



Oh what the heck! Here`s a link to my ridiculously meticulous SG checking/buffing method just because it`s more illustrative: :o http://www.autopia.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=12556

chris0626
04-30-2003, 01:58 PM
:bigups Thanks for the details. And I went to that thread -- your write-up is wonderful, practical, and Autopianly anal. :p I gotta go home now so I can try it. ... Ooops! No, can`t do that. Jag`s 140 miles away, in the shop. :(

milani
04-30-2003, 02:00 PM
Autopianly Anal! Should that be a new acronym added to the list? AA :nixweiss

shaf
04-30-2003, 04:17 PM
Originally posted by milani

Autopianly Anal! Should that be a new acronym added to the list? AA :nixweiss Somehow that phrase just doesn`t feel good when you try to let it roll off your tongue.... :p



And thanks Lynn...... I think. :D

chris0626
04-30-2003, 05:28 PM
Absolutely, 4DSC! It was meant as the highest praise. Genuinely. No tongue-in-cheek or irony or nothin`.